Custom Columns are locked after updating drawings in a sessions

  • Custom Columns are locked after updating drawings in a sessions

    Posted by Chris Riley on December 21, 2022 at 3:11 pm

    Maybe I missed something somewhere along the way. I have custom columns that I created prior to putting a document in a Session. Revised drawings show up, pulled document down from Sessions and updated it with new drawings. Put document back up on Sessions and now all my custom columns are no accessible, they are there I can see them I see the data in them but I cannot input new data into my custom columns. What gives?

    Troy DeGroot replied 1 year, 4 months ago 4 Members · 18 Replies
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  • David Cutler

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    December 22, 2022 at 8:46 am
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    Again @ChrisRiley I’m not a Sessions user. Commenting to engage @Roye and @Doug McLean

  • Liz Larsen

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    December 22, 2022 at 12:12 pm
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    Honestly, both questions sound like they warrant an email to Bluebeam tech support.

  • Troy DeGroot

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    January 4, 2023 at 10:39 am
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    @ChrisRiley did you load the custom columns into the revised drawings before you uploaded them? It sounds like you understand the limitations, so I’m confident you did, but have to ask to check that box. I’m curious if new markup data is locked, only existing ones, or both?

    • Chris Riley

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      February 8, 2023 at 6:18 pm
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      Been busy so been a while since I have been on this sight. Its only the existing markups that are locked, the columns are fine. I think it has to do with flattening when I pull the file down off of sessions, insert my new drawings and then put the file back up on sessions. Really kind of sucks because I was getting these columns set up to track my RFIs so the RFIs that I have answers to since I updated the drawings in the file I can’t update the markup in the resolved column. However, I was thinking about switching to using Sets (I like the term ‘Binder’ much better’ also), and running in Projects instead of Sessions. Like Liz, not sure if I can get the cats herded in the same direction. Was thinking of creating a ‘Category’ for RFIs and putting my RFIs right in the same Set as my contract drawings kind of like another discipline

    • Chris Riley

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      February 8, 2023 at 6:21 pm
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      failed to mention that my columns are part of my custom Profile, so I believe all I have to do is open the new drawings and then save them to get the columns come in. I might be wrong on this though.

      • Troy DeGroot

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        February 9, 2023 at 10:15 am
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        When you’re in the new drawing, go to the custom column window and export your custom column file. Save it someplace handy. Anytime you need to load them you can go to the same window and import the file before you upload to the session.

        @lizlarsen will like this, you can also build a custom button with JavaScript to quickly load columns and layers in a blink of an eye.

        I do like the idea of Projects rather then Session because you have the ability to utlize a folder structure. Sets is up for debate in the community, but I like them. Your idea for an RFI category is fantastic, I’d like to see that one played out.

        • Liz Larsen

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          Are you talking about Scripts or JavaScript?

          It’s confusing, but those words mean different things in Bluebeam.

          • Troy DeGroot

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            Scripts, sorry. 😜

        • Chris Riley

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          Yeah, I have my custom columns exported, so I can import whenever needed. I also have a pdf file called Layers that has all my default layers so I just insert that page into my combined document and it creates those layers save the document and then delete the page, the Layers stay in the combined file even though you can’t see them, but if your tools in your tool bag are assigned to those layers it starts populating as you add markups. Terry Cline has a good video on how to do the Layers on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eY0IYljFxs

          • David Cutler

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            February 9, 2023 at 4:06 pm
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            I like the “Layers” page idea @ChrisRiley !

            I do something similar with what I call my “Takeoff Coversheet”, though I hadn’t thought of putting my standard layers on it… This coversheet has most of my “standard” items that we include on every estimate (Mobilization, Supervision, Layout, etc) along with standard testing items. I insert the page (saved as a template) into my takeoff file. That way when I import my takeoff to create my bid items I have all of those standard items in the file without having to select them every time.

            • David Cutler

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              And after watching that video I now need to write a script to add my coversheet with a single click!

              Thank you for sharing this @ChrisRiley !

            • Troy DeGroot

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              Right, I built a script that would import that sheet with the layers, delete the layers page, then import the custom column file. All in one button.

            • Chris Riley

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              Not 100% sure I would want this in that script, but at the end of the script add a ‘Save’ option. Not sure I want the script to have that much control though?

            • Troy DeGroot

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              True @ChrisRiley, that could overwrite things you don’t want overwritten.

              Can we script a “Save As” I wonder? I’d be Ok with that.

            • Chris Riley

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              Save As would preserve the integrity of the original document for those not paying attention. Typically these are some of the very 1st things I do when I get new drawings in and this needs to be done anyway so Save or Save as tomato/tomoto. Which its not a big deal for me since the rest of the herd isn’t following me anyway (I hate not having standards, & nobody wanting to get onboard to establish them).

            • Troy DeGroot

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              Right!

              You know what they say, “If you’re the smartest person in the room, you’re in the wrong room.” 🤣

              Really all you can do is keep doing your best, work with integrity, and above all keep serving people. Success will chase you down.

            • David Cutler

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              That’s one of the things that I enjoy about hanging out here in the UChapter2 “room”. I am surrounded by like minded individuals who push me to take my Revu game to the next level every day.

              Thank you @troy-degroot for making the “room” available for us and thank you all for the lessons and challenges! 😎

            • Troy DeGroot

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              I’m learning right alongside everyone else my friend! My favorite part is the quality of communication and friendships being made. You don’t see that on any other forum, no passive-aggressive trolls and Bluebeam bashers. Just professional problem solvers!

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