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How do I undo this mess??????
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How do I undo this mess??????
100% operator error here!
Background – I use a coversheet on my takeoff packages that includes markups for “standard” items that we include in every estimate – mobilization, supervision, layout, dumpsters, etc. I usually insert this sheet into the PDF document when I start a takeoff. This establishes my standard layers and custom columns in the takeoff file.
Fast forward to a few minutes ago. I have my takeoff pretty well done for a project, but didn’t have the cover sheet added. No big deal, added the cover sheet into the file using Document > Insert Blank Page and select my template.
Next step is where I think I messed up. My template is an 11×17 document. The rest of the document is 36″ x 24″. No big deal, go to Document > Page Setup and change the page size to “Arch D 24″ x 36”. Hit “okay” and then saved my document.
Start scrolling through my takeoff and something is wrong. My cover sheet is fine, but the rest of the pages appear to be zoomed in to the upper left quarter of the document – and the rest of the image appears to be cropped off…..
Of course, since I saved the document Undo isn’t available….
What I missed is that the “Batch: Crop and Page Setup” is set to “All Pages”….
So, I’m going to play with the Page Setup options a bit and see if I can get the original images back. If that doesn’t work I’ll export my markups and see if I can import them onto a clean set of the documents – the markups don’t seem to have changed….
I’ll let you know how this works out…
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Points: 26,754Rank: UC2 Brainery Advanced Brown Belt
Okay, that wasn’t too bad….
I was able to export my markups from my original file and then import them into a “clean” file that I had available.
All is well now. 🙂
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Points: 15,212Rank: UC2 Brainery Advanced Blue Belt
To err is human,
To REALLY foul things up, requires a computer.
Glad you got it all sorted out
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Points: 26,754Rank: UC2 Brainery Advanced Brown Belt
At some point I’ll have to go back an try to replicate what I did – with a sandbox copy of my file – and then see if there is a way to undo it…
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Points: 8,113Rank: UC2 Brainery Purple Belt III
😬 yeah no way to undo as it literally cuts the rest of the page out. You can see this when you take a single page (testing file) to the crop and page setup and go to a smaller size, press clear. That should replicate what you were seeing. Then after processing you could try to set to original page size and when you press clear this time it should revert to the original position, except the most of the print is gone now. I wish it could keep track of off page content. Glad you had a backup.
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Points: 8,113Rank: UC2 Brainery Purple Belt III
OK maybe I was wrong. The preview shows that when you try to go back to the original size it would be mostly cut off, but after actually running it, you get your page content back, albeit positioning may need to be worked a bit.
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Points: 26,754Rank: UC2 Brainery Advanced Brown Belt
Good to know @isaac-harned ! Thank you for trying this independently.
At this point our workflow isn’t very “high tech” – basically we manage our PDFs the same way we would handle a paper set of drawings. The “original” gets saved to a “plans” folder in our project directory. A copy gets saved into our “takeoff” folder. This is the file that we make our takeoff markups on. Even if we managed to mess up both of these sets we typically have access to the clients cloud storage site to obtain a clean copy. We also have a set on an cloud based file access system for our trade partners. So 99.9% of the time I have access to a “clean” copy.
I know that we could be more sophisticated with our system using “Sets” or “Studio Sessions”, but typically one of us completes the entire takeoff for a proposal so setting these type of systems up would be added work.
At some point I expect that we will transition to digital plans in the field which will require updating our processes – but this may be years in the future…
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Points: 8,113Rank: UC2 Brainery Purple Belt III
Our process very similar, see snapshot. I wish Sets had the capability of doing this setup automatically, replacing the page and transferring markups to the “Takeoff Set” instead of just going to the latest revision and staying in that folder. We like to keep the overlays in the revision folder as a way to track bidding, another reason to stay away from sets for now.
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Points: 15,212Rank: UC2 Brainery Advanced Blue Belt
you can easily create a Set drawing log, that includes the filepath if you need too.
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Points: 8,113Rank: UC2 Brainery Purple Belt III
For sure, but I don’t want to also have to open the set file to get the latest and greatest, should all be in one directory so I can easily upload to ACC, PG etc. Also way easier to open multiple prints at once, and I also use the alt+pgup or pgdwn to navigate through a folder. I want to drag and drop my latest and greatest into emails without opening the set, etc. So many little things that are solved by having them in one place. And again I don’t want to create a separate overlay file, I want that on my revision file and I want to replace the background on my Takeoff set, so that the overlay and counts stay with the revision, but my markups also transfer to the new. Lol this discussion has gone a bit off topic.
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Points: 26,754Rank: UC2 Brainery Advanced Brown Belt
SQUIREL!!!!!
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