[Doug McLean]

Thanks @David Cutler .

It’s always fun to co-host the MCR.

Vince has really pushed the envelope in my opinion. Using the colour codes with another data table is brilliant.

[Doug McLean]

We do seem to get the fun jobs at Towne Millwork…lol

Helical stairs give Revu fits.

You cannot take a Polylength tool, apply a curve, and then give it a slope. Revu won’t let you as it grey’s out the tool.

As a Joiner we learn how to do this math in the 3rd year of our Apprenticeship, so I know the math.

Luckily, I don’t have to figure out the total rise and total run because I can just take those measurements.

@Vince hit it dead on, because I’m using Excel to do all the math here.

I may post the finished marked up page later.

[Doug McLean]

Doing a helix is one of the most challenging aspects of Millwork (or Architectural Metalwork).
Wood doesn’t like to twist. You can if you steam it, but even that posts its own challenges.

Designers like to think that this stuff is easy, but its not. It’s also expensive, because it takes a skilled tradesman to actually pull this off.

Back in the day, they would just sketch this out, and then a Finish Carpenter would lay these out on site and just start making it happen. There are tricks to doing these things. In todays world, with having to submit shop drawings for everything and CNC’ing parts, it actually makes it a bit harder.

Revit, ArchiCAD, Soildworks… they’re all awesome, but people have to try and build this stuff that designers are coming up with. It’s fun, but also challenging at the same time

[Doug McLean]

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[Doug McLean]

I did think about making a new blank page, taking a snapshot and then rotating the snapshot on the blank page.
I shouldn’t have to do that though.

[Doug McLean]

every so often, you find someone doing something that you didn’t know could be done.

Even advanced users don’t know all the little tricks

[Doug McLean]

I’m sure we’ll be able to post pictures of this one as it will be in a public space

[Doug McLean]

The waste is really in the core, IF you do it properly.

We can lay out the core in such a manner that we can keep waste down, but that all does depend on the veneer species.

What we’ll do is lay out the veneer on the parallelogram, so when we bend it all lines up nicely.

[Doug McLean]

Waste is a LOT higher. You start dealing with curved parallelograms

[Doug McLean]

About all I can say is that this is in a mall.

[Doug McLean]

Change Orders are never simple, especially in Millwork. You think they are, but they’re not.
Sometimes a simple change of a few inches results in needing completely different core materials.
Metals right now are crazy because we can only get certain sizes, what’s worse is that it varies from week to week, month to month on what’s available.

For this one job we’re doing right now, we were able to get 3 x 10’s of Bronze sheets when we bid the job, but now that we’re getting to build it, we can only get 4 x 10’s. It changes the whole takeoff and order process. We might even have to revise the shop drawings because where we would have needed to put a seam in a 39″ wide opening (because we would have needed 2 panels), we can now do in one panel. We also now have a lot more waste to contend with.

[Doug McLean]

This is probably how I’m going to do this.
I already have a list of our standard vendor’s, with subjects, will be really easy. The trick will be making sure we actually update the column accordingly once we’ve won a bid.

As for the Power Query, it won’t touch these columns, because the BatchConfig export file only includes for specific columns.

[Doug McLean]

Something along those lines.
My thought process is to show what was included at bid time by what vendor, and then to track those changes as various RFI’s, CCD’s, CO’s, revisions work through the project.
A lot of the time, what was asked for at bid time is not what ends up as the final product, mostly due to buildability issues worked out during the shop drawing phase.
I’m hoping it also becomes a tracking system as well to ensure that the vendor has repriced any and all changes.

And yes, it will also show what is what area to everyone, which has a whole range of benefits in terms of production requirements.

[Doug McLean]

Not necessarily, but that could grow from this workflow.

I’m looking at something like, what vendors are in this area and what is their scope? Then hopefully keep track of something changes between bid time and order placement.

Something to track the changes to their scope of work.

[Doug McLean]

Updating the Set is actually quite easy. It’s the same procedure as creating it.

As an end user I like it because I can easily see the changes from a previous revision. It’s actually saved us a few times because we can show the changes easily.

I do find them easier to work with because I’m working with a single page PDF rather than a large file. I also have my preferences set up so that when I click a link it opens a new tab with the new page. It just beats having two copies of the whole file open.

Now saying this, you don’t NEED a set to do this. You can do the same process by just using the linked drawing index page.